Season 1, Episode 2
Timelines, Being Wrong, and the Mandela Effect
About this Episode
Did you think the mask of King Tut only had a snake on it without a vulture? Do you remember Darth Vader saying, “Luke, I am your father” and not “No, I am your father”? Have you felt a shift in the timelines? If so, you’re not alone! Join Christine Contini and Laura C. Cantu for explorations into timelines, death, the Mandela Effect, being wrong, and more!
During this episode, Christine Contini and Laura C. Cantu discuss the importance of contemplation. Contemplation is one form of support that helps you know what is you and what is not you. When you can clearly see you are following the beliefs of others instead of your own, you can release the control the belief has over you through awareness in each moment.
Timelines, Being Wrong, and the Mandela Effect
Laura C. Cantu: [00:00:00] hello. My name is Laura Cantu
Christine Contini: [00:00:02] and I’m Christine Contini.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:00:02] And this is wonders handbook podcast.
Christine Contini: [00:00:05] And today Laura has the idea of bringing you guys in on a concept that’s been floating around for quite a while now, but maybe not talked about openly is the idea of collapsing timelines, where the multi-verse becomes one again.
And that, that becomes the true death of our reality when we all hit this oneness and then it just.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:00:28] Well, okay. So it could just end, but it could also be a very new beginning because like, um, Christine has died three times and come back to life. And one of this things that she told me, she learned, I think it was in their second or third death.
I don’t remember which one it was, but she told me a while back that whenever you have a death of your entire kind of. Being type of a reality on earth, then all of your other lifetimes collapse. And it, it kind of comes into one.
Christine Contini: [00:00:59] I know what you’re talking about. She’s talking about the death point. So in historically human beings were reaching their death point at the same time that they reached their physical death, because that’s when they did their life review.
And that’s when they. I saw all the pieces and it made perfect sense. And then they become the oneness of just themself. And then they expand from there, again, out into a new reality. So that was happening at the physical death. But now as consciousness as has evolved and we’re getting insight into things.
Every minute versus waiting till our death point. We’re starting to see, um, our control. We’re starting to see how we impact our lives. We’re starting to see all of our choices. There’s many of us that are arriving at this death of sorts or this death point where everything collapses into one. And then you were allowed to manifest.
See, we go forward wanting to manifest our realities and we can’t quite make it happen.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:01:54] So that’s what I wanted to talk about because I’m looking at the macro scale and the micro scale. So if humans go through this, why wouldn’t our entire species go through this as a group at the same time where all of these timelines that have been created either intentionally or not are now coming in so that we can start over with a brand new.
Awakening as what people are calling it right now. I think the great awakening or
Christine Contini: [00:02:20] something like that tie into the concept of the age of Aquarius.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:02:23] I think it does.
Christine Contini: [00:02:25] Yeah, I think so too. I remember that song as a kid. This is no, no honey know. Yeah. I think
Laura C. Cantu: [00:02:31] right now we’re moving into the age of Aquarius.
Like there’s like two or three, I think two, particularly really huge astrological. Cycles that are ending and coming new again. I think one is around 72,000 years and another one’s around 25,000 years and they’re all starting and ending at the same time.
Christine Contini: [00:02:53] Right. And the planetary experience of Jupiter has something to do with all of this too.
I know all of you is geologists, just cringing as we ask.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:02:59] So
Christine Contini: [00:03:00] we just muddle in here.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:03:02] So if you guys know about this contact us, and maybe we could have you on our show and talk about this more,
Christine Contini: [00:03:07] how, and also we could. Take input, some support material on the, on the historic pages of the podcast. So that there’ll be something for people to reference at that point as well.
So we appreciate your input.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:03:18] Yes. But the conversation comes back down to. Taking this multi dimensional experience and bringing it to a singular experience so that it can then blossom out again in a new, clean, truthful vibratory rate. That’s free from corruption. Is that
Christine Contini: [00:03:38] what we’re talking about? Yes. Yes.
Yes. And I’m going to give some examples if you’re okay with that so they can get a better idea, um, before. I had all of my deaths. I had started to look at my reality and how I wanted to change it and what, what was making me unhappy. And I had been meditating and I had felt all of these different versions of myself and I was able to pop in and out of these different experiences.
And I realized that no matter what choice I make in my now, everything still exist. So there’s no fear of loss anymore. Of me making a choice in this now that, you know, do I stay married or not? Do I have a kid or not? Do I change jobs or not? Well, what do I want to do right this moment? That’s where the decision is most fluid.
That’s where the reality is being created. But because we live in fear as humanity, and because we hold on to all this pain, We have these multi experiences that we tend to jump between. So I can start off in one of my timelines married and in another timeline, not married and I can jump back and forth between the two of them.
If you know how, and you might realize that. You have memories of something and you’re like, but it doesn’t really fit with the reality that I’m in. Well, you probably crossed into one of your other timelines. And again, it’s because you, you have a lot of questions or you want to know what that experience was be like have in, you might even want to come in on this one.
Have you ever really wanted to know before you made your choice, what it would feel like, and you could truly feel it?
Laura C. Cantu: [00:05:12] Yeah. And I’ve also had the ability to jump between my timelines too. And I was actually with two of my other time, my other incarnations or whatever you want to call them when they died.
And my consciousness went from those bodies. One, uh, one of the first time it happened, half of the consciousness came into the body that I have now. And another one went to another earth that was, had way more plant life on it than we do here. And then the second time it happened, um, all of the consciousness came into my body here.
So it wasn’t like the true death. It was going from one body to another experience right away. It wasn’t the death point that you’re talking about, not the true death, it’s not a true death. It’s the death point that you were talking about, where it’s a death of sorts, where all of the timelines match up and they make the transition altogether into a new way of being
Christine Contini: [00:06:04] right.
And think about that. If you can feel what that feels like, the excitement in that, because you are fractured, you’re in multiple timelines in your fractured. And I don’t mean this in a negative way. It just means all the aspects of yourself are not in your physical body. And this is what makes it difficult to manifest the reality that you may want.
And it also makes it possible to manifest a reality if you’re open to feeling the other timelines of your personal experience. So what you can do in a meditative state is you can look for an experience. So let me go back a minute. So one of the questions I did have to answer in my lifetime is do I want to get divorced or not?
And since I already had this experience of going into timelines and being able to see that there’s never a loss, I decided to look and feel, um, multiple experiences. You know, if I stayed in this relationship, how does it end? And it was beautiful, but it was going to be 60 plus years. Of pain and I had a choice, you know, and then I looked at another timeline where, okay, so I don’t stay in this relationship and I go live on my own and, and I pursue the arts and other things, and I didn’t enjoy that one as much.
And I thought that was interesting. Cause I’ve always been into art I’ve I grew up wanting to be an artist. I mean, it was my whole career goals. And every school I went to, everything I did was about art. And so I had expected that one to be vibrant and exciting, but there was just something missing in it.
And then I had the opportunity to look at possibly starting a new relationship. And I felt into that. And it wasn’t the same as if I continued my first relationship, because there was just some magic in that one that I, I wouldn’t have experienced any other way. And I looked at why would I think that, and.
It was because I had a belief say, I believed when you get married, you’re married for life. I was raised Catholic and my grandparents had been married forever and nobody got divorced in our family. And so I was in that mindset that this is where beauty lies is working through everything together. And so when I continued that timeline, Of course, I got to the end with this realization that this is a beautiful experience because it was the one I had designed in my thoughts.
And so what I had to do then was let go of my connection to those beliefs and move into a timeline where I could have happiness enjoying now. Yeah. And so that’s the timeline I’m on currently is I decided to move forward with that. But the reason I bring this in is not to say that you have to go looking for your timelines.
It’s more about collapsing everything into a single point of living in the moment all the time. And when you do so all experiences become one. So it’s, um, the verbiage might be a little hard here, so let’s express it even further details. When you have a thought in your, in your head of something, you want to do something you want to try, something you want to accomplish since time is not real.
There’s a part of you that goes and experiences all of the options. Now, if you tie yourself into again, the fear of loss or that you can make a bad choice, then some of those energetic passages that you put out there. Solidify
Laura C. Cantu: [00:09:25] they’ll close off. In other words,
Christine Contini: [00:09:27] they can close off or they can open new ones.
Right. So for
Laura C. Cantu: [00:09:31] instance, it matched your current vibration.
Christine Contini: [00:09:34] Exactly. So you’re energetically the one who creates all of your timelines. And again, they’re based on the fact that everything is timeless and they do have this connection or this, um, thought or belief or feeling of emotion. So a vibratory experience.
It’s not just, it’s not just thinking in your brain is thinking with your being. So when you go into your heart and you expand that energy, and then it goes up into your head and it expands through there, and then your root into the earth or your arms go out into space, you know, just kind of trying to give you guys a little bit of a visual there.
Then all your energy is moving in that direction. So when I say your arms go out into space, I just mean like imagine waving your arms in the air and then your energy continues past. It was not that, I mean, you literally move out into space, but your energy flows and it keeps flowing and it flows until something gets in the way of it or stops it or changes it.
And normally the only thing that stops or changes your energies, you, so when you make a decision out of fear, Those parts of you that weren’t fearful. They kept going.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:10:36] I want to discuss something here and just relate it to what I know in Chinese medicine and Chinese medicine. We defined pain and disease as the lack of flow.
So, and we also, um, have a theory that 99% of the lack of flow comes from emotions. So we could take that a step further and say, That is the root cause of all disease in all struggle, struggling, all suffering is fear.
Christine Contini: [00:11:05] Absolutely. A hundred percent. I believe
Laura C. Cantu: [00:11:07] that’s the opposite of love,
Christine Contini: [00:11:09] right? As the absence of the energy that you’re using for your creation, it’s also why you began, you can’t manifest.
So back to the beginning of this, we talked about you reach a death point and at that death point, you then. Move out and you can manifest now, make sure you check on the website, I’ll put up a picture, an image of this. What gave you a clearer idea of what it is to reach that depth point? And
Laura C. Cantu: [00:11:31] just so you know, the website is www wanders handbook.com.
Christine Contini: [00:11:36] Awesome.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:11:38] So, anyway, kick on. We’ve never said it. So
Christine Contini: [00:11:40] it’s in there somewhere then the links below. Yeah. Um, so in, in this idea, Everything collapses when energy flows. And then the only reason, again, you have separate timelines is, cause you said you separated your energy and that’s done with fear, which is the absence of light.
And when there’s no light, there’s no space for flow.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:12:04] And the other cool thing about when we start talking about timelines, and this is if you want to go like into the biblical type of creation stories, um, From my understanding and I have I’ve taken theology classes and all kinds of things, but from what I remember, everything was all created.
Everything was all created. So if we look at that, what does that really mean? That means everything has already been created. Right. And all we’re doing is aligning our ourselves and our frequencies. To what has already been created.
Christine Contini: [00:12:42] Ah, so let’s explain that. Yes. Yes. This is a broad concept that I think you guys will enjoy.
So we’re sitting here, we’re trying to master our ability to do something, to manifest, to obtain, to experience. And when you think about the timelines, like I said, you can jump between them. So if you do this, instead of thinking that you have to be the creator of all essence, everything from, from scratch, if you just reach with your energy into something, anything come up with a desire.
So like I was reaching into what would it feel like to be divorced? What would it feel like to have a different relationship? I reached into it. Well, it already exists. It’s already been created. So that’s all I’m doing is choosing my experience. And when you realize everything’s created. And you also know that we’re the creators, then you can gain that authority in your lives and make a choice that you didn’t even know was possible because you just hadn’t looked.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:13:40] Okay. So let’s talk about, and you’re the creators, because we can also take this back to everything is one
Christine Contini: [00:13:47] true that,
Laura C. Cantu: [00:13:48] and everyone comes from God,
Christine Contini: [00:13:50] right?
Laura C. Cantu: [00:13:52] So, you know what I mean? And instead of. Handing saying, Oh, well this was done for me. I think what she’s saying is this was done by me because we are all one.
Correct. And everything is all one. It is all made of the same thing.
Christine Contini: [00:14:09] Right. And if you want to think of the big bang, cause again, this is all science and this is all. It just depends on what direction you’re looking at this science. The big bang was the original energy. Of creation that created all things possible.
And then the expansion was each of us moving out. Now, if you’re part of an expansion and you move to the left and another part of your expansion moves to the right, it goes and they keep going endlessly and their directions. The idea is that they will never meet again, but because there is no such thing as time and space, the quantum idea is they will never separate.
And the other quantum idea is that they will reunite without the separation to be fully understood. So here I am part of my own creation. Laura is part of my own creation. My every experience with her is based on me. And vice versa because we are doing this individuation thing where first we were all one and then we separated so that we can have a unique experience.
Thought we separated. We thought we did. Right. Well, that’s what the veil is. Right? So we created a understanding separation so that we could experience something without all knowledge, because we all have access to all knowledge all the time. And the veil allowed us to. Kind of forget, but basically just move our awareness away.
So we began to narrow our focus and creative energy of attention versus all knowing all the time. And so then I could look at Laura and see her experience without knowing every detail of her experience, which if I just take the veil out of the way, I know all of her reality because it exists simultaneously.
And then I start to think she’s different than me. And I start to have a different experience because what are we here for emotions?
Laura C. Cantu: [00:16:02] And experiences.
Christine Contini: [00:16:03] And without this space we don’t, without this separation, there is no true. Um, Differentiation and emotions. So this allows us to experience an emotion as we think of it as unique.
But when you actually look at it, we’re all exactly the same. We’ll get into that another day. That’s the microcosm and macrocosm of it all is we’re all fit within the same macrocosm. And then we choose what it looks like and the microcosm. There’s no difference.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:16:31] Yes. And with that, we are going to come back and talk about the Mandela effect and how you have probably experienced this for yourself, but you may not realize it we’ll be back soon.
Christine Contini: [00:16:59] Hi guys. Welcome back.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:17:00] Wait, we’re going to cut that out because I pushed that while you were saying, I had to say welcome back. That’s okay. Just I’ll have to remember. I cut it. Ready.
Christine Contini: [00:17:14] Hi guys. Welcome back. Laura is going to tell us all she knows about the Mandela effect.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:17:18] So some of you guys might already know about this, but the psychologists would say, this is like a mass, um, psychological forgetting or changing of history, but the people who believe in the Mandela effect and alternate timelines and realities, think there is no way.
That see through UPO had a silver leg
and it’s always been that
Christine Contini: [00:17:42] way.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:17:43] Right? How can that be true? And same thing. Darth Vader never said, Luke, I am your father.
Christine Contini: [00:17:49] Oh. And something even less. Um, Sci-fi is the Febreeze bottle. I remember when somebody, I personally had one in my closet that looked exactly like they said, it doesn’t really look like it.
And I went to the closet to get it, and it was no longer there. And I thought, man, that’s pretty trippy.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:18:06] Yeah. And I even tracked one of these Mandela effects from what it was to what it. Came to be and what it went back to. And I documented it because I was writing a book at the time and I was going to use a certain line in my book.
I was going to quote it. And I went to, I went to research the quote and they said, Oh, there’s a Mandela effect on this. It used to be this, and now it’s this. And so I recorded it with the date. I said, okay. So as of this date, it says this. So I’m going to tell you the line. It was Houston. We have a problem.
Is what it used to be. And then in November and December, I can’t remember the year, 2000 something, it switched to Houston. We’ve had a problem and then it switched. I think it’s now back to Houston, we have a problem.
Christine Contini: [00:18:52] Interesting.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:18:53] It’s either that, or I switched it up. It could be like Houston. We’ve had a problem.
Houston, we have a problem. Houston we’ve had a problem. I can’t remember, but I I’d have to look it up, but I did document it and I watched it change.
Christine Contini: [00:19:05] Wow.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:19:06] And so that’s another one. And another one is King Tut. Uh, do you know what he has on his head dress?
Christine Contini: [00:19:14] A snake.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:19:15] Right. When I was in college, I looked at that head dress and I did an art project on it.
Christine Contini: [00:19:20] Was it a bird then?
Laura C. Cantu: [00:19:22] It was a snake. It
Christine Contini: [00:19:23] was always a snake,
Laura C. Cantu: [00:19:24] but now it has a snake and a vulture and it always has,
Christine Contini: [00:19:28] Oh my goodness. No. Well, when I was in second grade, so I was seven. My dad was gifted a book with King Tut’s. I mean, I looked at it, it was the most fascinating thing I didn’t even know about pyramids and tombs yet.
And I looked at that daily for months and months and months. And it was a picture book. I mean, gorgeous photographs and no, it’s a snake. I’m
Laura C. Cantu: [00:19:48] sorry. It’s a snake and an altar. Now I can look it up and amazing. Yep. And there’s Bible verses too. So whenever I grew up, we studied with my grandmother and my mom.
We read the Bible all the time and we used my great grandmother’s Bible and we marked in it and we wrote in the sidelines, what does this mean? What does this mean? And you go back to those passages now. And some of them have changed like in their Bibles, in their old Bibles and what we wrote on the side no longer even make sense.
Christine Contini: [00:20:18] Wow. Like,
Laura C. Cantu: [00:20:21] I mean, they have publishing in the Bible now and they have, um, wine bottles instead of flasks
Christine Contini: [00:20:27] and instead of the,
Laura C. Cantu: [00:20:29] the skins. Yeah.
Christine Contini: [00:20:31] Yeah. That’s true. I do remember it was,
Laura C. Cantu: [00:20:33] and the lion, the lion laying down with the lamb is now like the wolves sleeping with the. The lambs
Christine Contini: [00:20:40] or something. Okay. So what does all this have to do with anything?
Laura C. Cantu: [00:20:47] So we were talking about timelines and how we’re always jumping between timelines and how it seems. It appears that a lot of timelines are collapsing and coming into more of a singular timeline, even though I still think there’s a lot of them.
Christine Contini: [00:21:01] Ooh. Oh, wait, you did say that there’s people are having experiences and they probably don’t even know it.
I have one that this will make a sense and it’s going to clear up a lot of confusion and conversations. Cool. So Laura and I were talking and we would talk all day long and we were having a conversation and she said something to me and I responded to it. An hour and a little bit further in the conversation.
I said, wait a minute, why did you say that? And she said, well, I said it cause I was responding to you. And I said, no, no, no, you said that. And then I responded, she says, no, you said something. And then I responded and it was so clear. The more we looked at that moment that we literally had been separate and then came into the same space at that moment from different conversations.
I mean, how fascinating is that? How many times have you turned to? Somebody said, well, you said, and they said, no, you said, and you both are certain that the other person said something and there’s just no way to prove it because there’s not a recording. I mean, there’s nothing to go back to. That is one of those timeline experiences.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:22:03] Yes, it is. And then there’s other times like, like I went out to my car and the entire interior of my car was a different color and I’m like, What the heck,
what is going on here? And I asked my husband and he’s like, it’s always been like that. I’m like, no, it hasn’t.
Christine Contini: [00:22:22] What did she mean? Right. And so can I tell you how come one person jumps in the other doesn’t or how come Mike only guesses somebody bringing it in? So perhaps, um, your spouse was bringing this color in and it was new for you.
What it was, what they always had. And
Laura C. Cantu: [00:22:44] so explain that. I don’t know. I don’t understand what you’re saying,
Christine Contini: [00:22:47] right. This one’s a little more complicated. Um, let me try to find something simple in my memory that will help.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:22:54] Are you talking about combining timelines?
Christine Contini: [00:22:56] What combining the, okay, so let’s go into telepathy and quantum.
Okay. Let’s this is the answer. So I’ll help you. So multiple things are existing simultaneously. And at some point, someone decides to make it more rigid and more real. And therefore they identify it, they label it, they name it. And whatever you name creates a solidness. So this is why, why do you give a baby name when they’re born?
So they don’t disappear on you.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:23:25] And I want to say this about Chinese medicine, Chinese medicine does not specifically name diseases.
Christine Contini: [00:23:32] Brilliant.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:23:32] What they do is they say, Oh, this may be a deficiency in this, but that’s not naming it as a solid disease.
Christine Contini: [00:23:41] Right? Because once you name it, it becomes something real versus something still fluid that is easier to fix.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:23:48] And Chinese medicine is all about studying the energy of the body and Western medicine. Went into dead bodies and studied
Christine Contini: [00:23:55] it. I’m named thing. And by naming solidified it, which is probably why disease is different in our, in our culture than other cultures. And just, I also believe it’s why we’re also adapting some of the more esoteric and less fluid and more fluid concepts into our healing versus before we preferred to name it.
Cause once it was named and identified, we could do something with it.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:24:21] Yeah, I, this just brings me to a conversation that I heard recently about someone saying they didn’t believe in God and they’re like, show me proof. And I’m like, Well, what is consciousness?
How do you explain that? I’m not saying I’m not equating consciousness with God. I’m just saying where’s the proof of consciousness really?
Christine Contini: [00:24:42] Right. Well, where’s even the proof of light. I mean, we can go all day long with this. Where’s the proof of gravity. Did you know that there’s some spots on the earth where gravity doesn’t exist?
That’s a fact.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:24:51] And there’s so many people that think they understand gravity, but if you look at the scientists, they’re like, well, you don’t really know what it is.
Christine Contini: [00:24:58] So there’s a lot of guesses. Now this goes into the universal conscious mind as well. So back to the idea of how do we solidify something.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:25:05] Oh, by the way, I just want to say proof of consciousness.
Who’s to say, we’re not just programmed computers,
Christine Contini: [00:25:10] right? We’re AI. And somebody is watching us where their entertainment value.
So the, a 0.2 with what Laura Laura is saying is don’t lock yourself into anything. Cause as soon as you lock yourself in, then it’s no longer who knows it’s I’ve named it. I become it. And if you want to stay fluid and have the most. Um,
Laura C. Cantu: [00:25:33] magical life,
Christine Contini: [00:25:34] right? Then you want to remain open and fluid so we can talk and we can enjoy, but I’m not locking myself into anything that I say.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:25:43] I mean, even on these podcasts, we’re like, well, this is our current perspective in what we’re. Talking about right now, but
Christine Contini: [00:25:50] in two seconds it might not be. And I’m perfectly fine with that. But what we tend to do as human beings, we give the brain control and the brain is more solid and it locks in and it says, no, this is a fact why, because this is how we protect ourselves so that we don’t physically die.
And of course, if you live in all of your brain, then you get stuck in that. And it’s very difficult to manifest and be fluid and to change.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:26:12] And we also get stuck in the habits of not wanting to be wrong. And just so you guys know we are okay with being wrong here on
Christine Contini: [00:26:19] this show, and we’re probably better at it than most people.
And that is something to think about because why would you care if you are wrong or not? Again, somebody gave you a fear that you could have a problem if you were wrong when it doesn’t matter. No, but somebody created it. The idea that it matters, I don’t care if I’m wrong or not. I’m here for my entertainment value
Laura C. Cantu: [00:26:41] and we’re here to.
Have we, we are here for entertainment and we’re here to help people and ourselves to think differently and to think more in flow. Or to explore what it feels like to not be in flow. We’re here for exploration and to, and
Christine Contini: [00:26:59] contamination contamination. Yeah. So every time you take on a belief from me, you’ve contaminated your natural self as something that’s not you.
And this is why we give you guys the exercises to do, to go through and contemplate cause a contemplation exercise helps you see what’s really you and what’s not really you.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:27:17] We also use the word corruption for that. Because anytime we take something from the outside and bring it to the inside, it is then as she said, contaminated and then corrupt.
Christine Contini: [00:27:26] Correct. So those are not bad words to us. Just like when iron turns it to rust it, everyone. You may think that that’s a bad thing, but there’s many benefits to iron resting. I mean, when we’re getting into science, but another day, so where were we going?
Laura C. Cantu: [00:27:43] We were going into the quantum field. Ah, yes.
Christine Contini: [00:27:45] So back to why this works.
Why would the color of her car change and why would it then become her reality? So, yeah. Telepathically where we’re in this U UCM, the universal conscious mind, and we’re all working together to create a reality because nothing’s real. Anyway. So we, as a group are deciding our reality two to five days in advance, sometimes years for the more complicated things.
But for a regular daily thing is about two to three, four or five days. And you can be in the UCM. And you will have one thought and then maybe your partner has another thought and you think you’re on the same wavelength, but then you come into your reality and you never expressed it in the physical.
And therefore you both are carrying separate versions of the same story. And eventually when it becomes expressed, it gets named. Then one of you has to say, Oh, Well, let’s take your version or no, it’s my version. And in that moment with the car, Laura let go of hers and she let him come forward with his version.
Now, again, this is all creation. There’s no fact to it. Now we can take it down to molecular. So we go into molecular, which is prior and after quantum. So quantum happens before molecular in the molecules. That’s what we consider that this is real. This is solid, but guess what? And a molecule there’s more space, there’s more flow.
There’s more movement. There’s nothing solid about a molecule at all. So everything is constantly a flex. Everything is constantly changing our influence of our consciousness on this energy, on this light content creates a new reality over and over and over
Laura C. Cantu: [00:29:28] and to the point where we can question, how do we know the past really exists?
Christine Contini: [00:29:34] Right. Oh my gosh. How dangerous can that be? And I was just watching a show earlier today. We’re I’m a grown woman was getting married and she was sad because her mother had died when she was five and somebody gave her her mother’s veil to wear on her wedding. And she was like, but I don’t even remember.
I don’t even have a connection to that. And I thought, Ooh, that’s a good one because how many of us go all day long? Trying to validate that if we forget something that that’s bad, you know that, so she here, she was having emotional negative reaction
Laura C. Cantu: [00:30:09] beating herself up because she didn’t remember something.
Christine Contini: [00:30:12] Right. When guess what. That memory is not even real anymore. It’s not relevant to her life. That’s why it’s not carried. And then we have other people who every day, hang on, hang on tooth and nail. Not to forget something, not to ever let it go. And guess what they’ve done. They’ve named it. They’ve eliminated flow and there’s less good feeling.
And those experiences now let’s combine the two concepts of flow and memory. And you can use memory to create a flow, and then you can have a constant feeling with that memory. I’m going to give an example. I love brownies.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:30:52] I do too. Oh
Christine Contini: [00:30:52] my gosh. I used
Laura C. Cantu: [00:30:53] to anyway.
Christine Contini: [00:30:54] Right? Well, you can make gluten free brownies.
There’s lots of different variables throughout the show recipes when I make brownies. And my love is in that brownie. Every bar that I make, everyone can taste it and everyone gets a good feeling. And then if. The only reason that exists is because I create that reality every time, because what do I go back to before?
And I have experiences where I had. Not been in a good place and made Ronnie’s and on our Patrion. There’s, there’s one of those where I talk about that I made brownies and the kids are like, mom, these tastes terrible. What were you in a bad mood or something when you made them? Cause my kids could taste the difference in my energy.
And I was rushed that day and didn’t think I had time to make them, but they were for a bake sale at school and I’d kept some of them for the kids to have after class. And it was so interesting that they could taste it. And that’s when I started really studying that. You know, I create the reality that brownies are amazing and I give it that feeling and I pass it on to someone else to enjoy.
And they are now corrupt with my interpretation.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:32:00] And this works in so many ways, like when I was in school and there were people who set themselves up as more important than other people in cliques because they believed it and they set themselves up higher. That became the hierarchy because everybody bought into it.
Christine Contini: [00:32:15] Somebody has to buy into it. If nobody buys into it, then they’re just running around being foolish. Right. That’s so funny because when I was in school and in junior high, I recognize that feeling and I thought so many people are unhappy with this. So I started spouting a different opinion, which is. Um, I never was rude.
Cause a lot of people will be like, who do they think they are? And I like, they think they’re who they are. Why don’t you think about who you are? Ooh. And so we started as, as a different group of people passing that around this school. And why don’t you pay attention to who you are? Why don’t you think about who you are, how you represent yourself and you know what the cliques started to fade and more neutrality and more control against like an interacting as a whole.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:32:59] Look at that.
Christine Contini: [00:33:00] It was a beautiful experience. I had no idea that we were doing it. I just was so frustrated with everybody talking bad about this one group of people that were the popular people and I couldn’t stand it. So I had to do something
Laura C. Cantu: [00:33:12] and this, I want to come back to this subject because this is very relevant today.
There’s so much stuff on the news and there’s so much stuff going around. The conspiracy theory circles. Why concentrate on what’s outside of yourself? That’s the circus. Why not concentrate on who you are and what it is that you are here for. It doesn’t even have to be for a purpose, right. It can be like, what do you want to experience today?
Christine Contini: [00:33:37] Right. So this is going to date this podcast, cause we’re coming towards the end of the coronavirus. And I’m gonna go ahead and bring this up because. Everybody is allowed to have their own experience. And a lot of people want to control the experience of others because they don’t understand that all of these experiences can happen simultaneously without impacting each other.
And so for myself, and I’m sorry for any of you that aren’t going to appreciate this. I don’t wear a mask anywhere ever, and I, I will not buy into somebody else’s fear that I’m harming them because my reality is I don’t need it. And I don’t mind that you have your reality. I tried it on for a half, a second to go ahead and move myself into that fear and with them.
And it just was such a burden. I decided, nah, I just don’t want to do it. So, and this goes on and on. And, and this entire experience, if we realize that we’re all able to have our own. Without judging others that we create our reality. See, I create the reality that I won’t get sick, that I don’t need it.
It’s not a denial. There’s a completely different thing there. If I’m in fear and I’m just telling myself I won’t get sick, I’m more likely to actually get sick. But if I create my wellness reality and I’m solid in it, then I carry that forward.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:34:56] So. You said something there that wanted, I wanted to talk about something, but I totally forgot what it was because then I moved into the place that yeah.
If you know, and knowing is very different than holding the counterbalance of something you’re fearful against.
Christine Contini: [00:35:11] Yeah. That’s definitely something that needs to be
Laura C. Cantu: [00:35:14] Very different.
Christine Contini: [00:35:15] So we have, um, when you live in this moment in the next. You were in a state of understanding and everything flows and everything synchronized, and there’s like that perfect experience.
Now that’s this moment in the next, and that’s considered an understanding. Now, if you go into knowing, knowing is actually just behind. This moment. So if you know something again, you’ve named it, you’ve created it. It’s not an understanding anymore. It’s an acknowledgement of, and you’ve given it weight.
So you’re now dragging energetically. You’re tied to the past and you have to drag this past energy forward repeatedly. And so there’s a weight when you know something. So if I know I can die from a virus, if I know I will get sick, if I don’t wash my hands and I keep that as my knowledge. Then I carry the weight of it and I become part of the issue.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:36:09] Well, how about if you know you’re well,
Christine Contini: [00:36:12] Nope, cause you’re still carrying the weight. Okay.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:36:14] I just wanted to bring that up because I know that’s going to be a question
Christine Contini: [00:36:17] and so what will happen if you know that you’re well, and then you ended up getting sick. You you’re like, but I knew I was fine. How come this happened to me?
Right? Again, because you’re carrying weight and you’re no longer fluid and free flow. You can be an open flow, but open flow is not as satisfying, energetically as free flow.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:36:35] And this is I think, where if you’ve ever looked into Buddhism, they come into non-attachment possibly I’ve studied Buddhism a little bit.
When I was in school, studying theology,
Christine Contini: [00:36:47] I did a, I didn’t study it deeply, but I did go and attend a Buddhist. Um, facility here in Las Vegas for quite some time when I was sick with multiple sclerosis and it was one of the turning points of my life.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:36:59] Oh, wow. Well, my, my turning points was when I was in college studying that theology and all of that, they, the teachers and everything, they made us study all the different world religions,
Christine Contini: [00:37:09] ah,
Laura C. Cantu: [00:37:10] and to find the similarities and all of them.
And it was. So freaking cool. Right? That’s a discussion for another
Christine Contini: [00:37:16] day. Right? We can get into that with someone, with some of the colors that would be a great call, a live call show fresh. Definitely. Um, when I did do one of the, one of the things in the, in the Buddhist re the experience, cause it’s not a religion was the, the nine phases.
I know they use a different word, but for me, the phases is how I would think of it. And so the bottom being hell and the topping heaven. And again, I’m so sorry. I’m not. Probably not saying this. Correct, but this is just my memory of it. So it’s my version. And one of them, one of the explanations was that year in hell as a choice, then you’re supposed to rise through these different layers and experiences to reach heaven.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:37:57] And if you want to understand that more, watch the movie, what dreams may come.
Christine Contini: [00:38:03] So
Laura C. Cantu: [00:38:03] I think that wraps this podcast up for today. We are running out of time.
Christine Contini: [00:38:08] Oh, I’m sorry guys. I’m leaving you hanging a little bit on a lot of topics on this one. Sorry.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:38:12] But do you want to mention some of the things that we’ll talk about in future podcasts?
Christine Contini: [00:38:17] Ooh, um, materialism. I’ve got a really good one coming up with materialism.
Laura C. Cantu: [00:38:23] Okay, good. Good. So hope you enjoyed it. And we look forward to seeing you and chatting with you another day. Bye guys.
Christine Contini: [00:38:30] Bye.
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